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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at Great Western LA Forum on 1989-02-11
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- Publication date
- 1989-02-11 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Live concert
- Collection
- GratefulDead
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- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 1.2G
Mississippi Half Step, Minglewood Blues, Candyman, Big River, Built To Last, Queen Jane Approximately, We Can Run But We Can't Hide, Bird Song China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Women Are Smarter, Standing On the Moon, Estimated Prophet-> Jam-> I Will Take You Home-> Drums*-> Eyes Of The World-> I Need A Miracle-> Black Peter-> Turn On Your Love Light, E: Box Of Rain
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SBD>MC>DAT>CDR; Seeded to etree by Tim W
- Addeddate
- 2004-07-07 10:52:47
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- 1
- Identifier
- gd89-02-11.sbd.wiley.9203.sbeok.shnf
- Location
- Inglewood, CA
- Numeric_id
- 15986
- Shndiscs
- 2
- Source
- SBD>MC>DAT>CDR
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- Great Western LA Forum
- Year
- 1989
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Reviews
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Reviewer:
prustygunn
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May 6, 2018 (edited)
Subject: My 54th Show
Subject: My 54th Show
Pretty good show overall. Very nice renditions of Candyman and Black Peter. Good China>Rider. I Will Take You Home is not my cup of tea but you’ll
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probably not find a better version than this. And the track list should be amended to include Space after Estimated, which was definitely cool. In general, though, Jerry seems to be happy stepping back and letting others take the lead, so the energy never sustains throughout the show.
Reviewer:
Carymul
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June 30, 2014
Subject: Back at You
Subject: Back at You
Absolute monster show!! I was there that night and in a very, very good head space- this was probably my fourth or fifth show, and like some other folks,
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I went Friday and Saturday, hung in the parking lot on Sunday and missed Dylan...I too vowed not to make that mistake again. I still have no idea why the Boys loved ripping up the Forum (it could've been the golden vibes of Kareem and Magic), but they always delivered there. As a lifelong Dead fan, the waters have been tricky at times being from LA, but this show proves the point that things do indeed get strange here. Anyone who spent 5 minutes in that Denny's across the street knows what I'm talking about...and unless there was someone else telling people throughout the show that Box of Rain was going to be the encore, that dude who posted a review in '04 has just found his guru. Blessings!
Reviewer:
TheJugg
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July 7, 2013
Subject: To anyone who was actually there
Subject: To anyone who was actually there
I don't know how many people were actually at this show, but if you were you may remember me. I was the baby born in the parking lot. This concert brings
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tears to my eyes every time I hear it. If you listen carefully they changed the line up of songs because of my birth. First line of the concert "On the day that I was born, my daddy sat down and cried". Also, it is full of songs about family, children and mothers. Listen to We Can Run But We Can't Hide, after the lyric "And then I hear the sound, of one child crying" the crowd goes nuts. This is one of the most inspirational moments of my life. I wanted to share with everyone, hope you enjoy it as much as I do. =)
Reviewer:
BIG_R
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July 18, 2009
Subject: LOVELY
Subject: LOVELY
I loved this performance and the soud quality is outstanding. The show the night before was good but this is even better. Now off to listen to the third
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night of this L.A. run.
Reviewer:
sblue0308
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December 24, 2006
Subject: Set two
Subject: Set two
I had a real good 2nd. gen. analog of the second set and this has been one of my favorites for years. It's still my favorite China-Rider, Estimated, and
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I Will Take You Home. Never heard the 1st set till I found this site although I had the analogs from 2/10 & 2/12. I'm glad we can at least stream these shows and I can at least put this back on analog again. This sounds like the exact same copy that was stolen off of me 5 years ago. God bless the archives for being here at all. I always thought the sound was phenominal at this show in particular out of the run of three and was happy to hear the first set sounded just as good.
Reviewer:
jboyaquar
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March 8, 2006 (edited)
Subject: A long but worthy gig from the City of Angels
Subject: A long but worthy gig from the City of Angels
I prefer this sound to the static-y (sheath in front of the speaker)noise on the other recording.
1st Set: After a minute of tuning, a comfortable, somewhat ... rousing stroll through "Mississippi." The 'Forum Fillies' are looking good throughout an eager, perfectly acceptable "Minglewood." Up next, is an easy to follow seemingly abbreviated 6 minute "Candyman." A focused, direct "Big River" is next. We have a debut: Jerry's '89 version of 'Push,' the title track "Built to Last." Even though this is its first public offering, it sounds none too different than any other version. A professional "Queen Jane" follows that's accenuated by pretty Jerry lines and a keen charge at the end. An impassioned sung "We Can Run" is notable for its brevity. Let's sing and clap-along at the top of the 4's. the "Bird" flies by next. Pretty standard despite some odd purposefully anti-gelling jamming mid-way through. Only average climax making me believe they should have closed the set off with 'Promised.'
2nd Set: On the bright side, "China" gets us back to dancing. I can't say the presentation was particularly novel, but a good time was had. A consistently rigorous "Rider" maintains momentum. It moves real quickly but doesn't pave new roads. "Man Smart" follows the same pattern. Tight and focused with plenty of energy but not much invention. A minimalist "Standing" confirms that this song has matured fast. Unfortunately, by eliminating all musical momentum, the first two-three minutes of "Estimated" lack that special 'craze.' There must have been an agreement made between band members to purposely stretch out the song before "Drums" into a jamming vehicle. However, at around the ten minute mark "Estimated" begins its dissolution into 'Space' like brain farts. Ooopsy, my mistake because around 13:30 the tones get awfully kiddy leading to Brent's lullabye "Take You Home." Someone's strumming a well-placed acoustic sounding guitar. Finally, it's "Drums" time which includes some 'lovely ladies' chanting in a foreign dialect. Around 8:30 on for a minute, it sounds as if they're documenting the burning of a Vietnamese village with the men pleading for God to intervene. After a short "Space" a barebones "Eyes" emerges. Consider a ride through farmland country...sort of bumbling characters, 'Apple Dumpling Gang' made introspective. Very fine 2 1/2 minute outro...jazzy groovin thang. Now completely changing tones, cause we're in LA... a "Miracle." After a minute of altering sensibilities, Jerry and company make ado. Bobby's sings the tune in an odd but sincere timewarp. "Find her in a sideshow...leave her, errgh right here." Next the sad tale of "Black Peter" which is musically like 'Eyes' in that it's minimal and reaches its pinnacle in its outro. Good times through a consistent "Lovelite." Digging Brent's swirling boards, Not Bobby's cheesy vocal presentation.
This is an appropriate location for "Box." Nice all-around work from Phil. Weak harmonizing. "Thank you; Goodnight." (Phil)
3 1/4 stars
1st Set: After a minute of tuning, a comfortable, somewhat ... rousing stroll through "Mississippi." The 'Forum Fillies' are looking good throughout an eager, perfectly acceptable "Minglewood." Up next, is an easy to follow seemingly abbreviated 6 minute "Candyman." A focused, direct "Big River" is next. We have a debut: Jerry's '89 version of 'Push,' the title track "Built to Last." Even though this is its first public offering, it sounds none too different than any other version. A professional "Queen Jane" follows that's accenuated by pretty Jerry lines and a keen charge at the end. An impassioned sung "We Can Run" is notable for its brevity. Let's sing and clap-along at the top of the 4's. the "Bird" flies by next. Pretty standard despite some odd purposefully anti-gelling jamming mid-way through. Only average climax making me believe they should have closed the set off with 'Promised.'
2nd Set: On the bright side, "China" gets us back to dancing. I can't say the presentation was particularly novel, but a good time was had. A consistently rigorous "Rider" maintains momentum. It moves real quickly but doesn't pave new roads. "Man Smart" follows the same pattern. Tight and focused with plenty of energy but not much invention. A minimalist "Standing" confirms that this song has matured fast. Unfortunately, by eliminating all musical momentum, the first two-three minutes of "Estimated" lack that special 'craze.' There must have been an agreement made between band members to purposely stretch out the song before "Drums" into a jamming vehicle. However, at around the ten minute mark "Estimated" begins its dissolution into 'Space' like brain farts. Ooopsy, my mistake because around 13:30 the tones get awfully kiddy leading to Brent's lullabye "Take You Home." Someone's strumming a well-placed acoustic sounding guitar. Finally, it's "Drums" time which includes some 'lovely ladies' chanting in a foreign dialect. Around 8:30 on for a minute, it sounds as if they're documenting the burning of a Vietnamese village with the men pleading for God to intervene. After a short "Space" a barebones "Eyes" emerges. Consider a ride through farmland country...sort of bumbling characters, 'Apple Dumpling Gang' made introspective. Very fine 2 1/2 minute outro...jazzy groovin thang. Now completely changing tones, cause we're in LA... a "Miracle." After a minute of altering sensibilities, Jerry and company make ado. Bobby's sings the tune in an odd but sincere timewarp. "Find her in a sideshow...leave her, errgh right here." Next the sad tale of "Black Peter" which is musically like 'Eyes' in that it's minimal and reaches its pinnacle in its outro. Good times through a consistent "Lovelite." Digging Brent's swirling boards, Not Bobby's cheesy vocal presentation.
This is an appropriate location for "Box." Nice all-around work from Phil. Weak harmonizing. "Thank you; Goodnight." (Phil)
3 1/4 stars
Reviewer:
boobychew
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April 22, 2005
Subject: Wow!
Subject: Wow!
Great show...second set has good energy...smokin Rider and Women next keeps it high. Jerry is really pickin it...Bird Song too is great, but I think it
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is cut at the end right when jerry would come back in with "don't cry now"...great show, good sound, def. DL
Reviewer:
patchesfluffnug
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March 29, 2005
Subject: DRUMS
Subject: DRUMS
this Drumz is sick!!
so is the whole show
so is the whole show
Reviewer:
Peggy Lancaster
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February 22, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Dead On!
Subject: Dead On!
Oh, they were so ON!. The Dead at the Forum in Inglewood,CA. was in it self perfect. The seedy back alley ambience provided a certain overall weirdness
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that fit the whole "LA Thing". The show was excellent. The sound was crisp, clear and well balanced. And LOUD. In a good way.
We had nosebleed seats so my brother (an FBI Agent!) said we've gotta move. Ended up near the soundboard (of course). Some drunk guy fell on me. I'm only 105LBS. Needless to say, my bro' took care of the SITUATION in a "Deadhead" sort of way. Real mellow. I love my brother and the Dead. What a trip indeed.
Great show, ALL of it. Dowload this one! It's a slice of Heaven.
"Queen Jane" and "Black Peter" are particular stand outs; as well as "I Know You Rider" into " Women Are Smarter". "Drum's" and "Space" with Airto etc. will take you to a space beyond. Go there. Go NOW!
I'm so glad I was there. With the crapfest in the news today. Thank God for the "Good 'Ol Grateful Dead" and of course the
archive.
NFA
We had nosebleed seats so my brother (an FBI Agent!) said we've gotta move. Ended up near the soundboard (of course). Some drunk guy fell on me. I'm only 105LBS. Needless to say, my bro' took care of the SITUATION in a "Deadhead" sort of way. Real mellow. I love my brother and the Dead. What a trip indeed.
Great show, ALL of it. Dowload this one! It's a slice of Heaven.
"Queen Jane" and "Black Peter" are particular stand outs; as well as "I Know You Rider" into " Women Are Smarter". "Drum's" and "Space" with Airto etc. will take you to a space beyond. Go there. Go NOW!
I'm so glad I was there. With the crapfest in the news today. Thank God for the "Good 'Ol Grateful Dead" and of course the
archive.
NFA
Reviewer:
mcadkstar
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February 14, 2005
Subject: Estimated>SPACE>Take You Home>DRUMS
Subject: Estimated>SPACE>Take You Home>DRUMS
That's right! Listen for yourself, there was a full Space coming out of Estimated where the drummer's left the stage (persumably to huddle with Airto,
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Flora and Diana)and then returned for one of the wildest Drums I have ever witnessed. Flora and Diana's chanting was turned on it's head through Healy's 'Blender' and Airto's madman antics put me into full orbit. After the Drums, a very brief Space which was more of an introduction into 'Eyes' and a strong finish.
Good quality Cassette board, which you can tell because of the break in Drums - but totally worth your time. GET THIS SHOW!!!
Good quality Cassette board, which you can tell because of the break in Drums - but totally worth your time. GET THIS SHOW!!!
Reviewer:
Honest Injun
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September 10, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Post-show strangeness
Subject: Post-show strangeness
My fifth show. I was still a newbie then, so I had to ask someone what the name of Bird Song was. His answer: "Snow and Rain". Guess I wasn't the only
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clueless one there. More memories of this night: Zon broke my glasses in the parking lot when his keys that he threw up in the air landed square on my frames. Driving through the backstreets of Inglewood, a blonde woman in a wedding dress ran right in front of my car. Then I was up all night unable to get the riff of Bird Song out of my head. Finally I gave up and walked around Marina del Rey listening to Quadrophenia on my walkman. What does this have to do with this show? You got me there. Oh, I skipped the next night and when I heard Dylan showed up, I decided I would never miss another show of a particular run. I almost was able to keep my word.
Reviewer:
Johnny C2k4
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September 8, 2004
Subject: 4 stars
Subject: 4 stars
Good sbd killer birdsong,however this is not the one taped for the live cd W/O a NET.Most w/o a net was taped in 90s some fall 89 with Jerrys latest toy
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the midi>>Flute heheee?:_))))))
Reviewer:
Dobbs, Bob Dobbs
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August 8, 2004
Subject: Thank You Thank You Thank You
Subject: Thank You Thank You Thank You
i'm not sure that I'm qualified to rate the audio quality of this show, but it sounds pretty spectacular to me. By far this was the best show I ever saw.
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Maybe because i was leaning on the barrier with nobody between me and the stage for most of the show. They played some spectacular upbeat second set tunes and the drums were the most spectacular thing I'd ever seen and heard. I still have the beach ball that sat on the stage for most of the second set and the guy that kept telling us that box of rain was gonna be the encore, well, my brother and I thought the guy was mystical. thanks so much to the poster, i have literally been looking for this since it happened even though i have a very poor quality tape of the entire thing.
cheers
cheers
Reviewer:
oscar
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July 16, 2004
Subject: i called it
Subject: i called it
in the front row that night, i was singing birdsong along with jerry and he showed me snow and rain alright!!!!!!!! i think i made him and brent laugh
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in my general direction cause i was so trippin, it was a sick moment in my life, later i called out estimated prophet, they played it, it being my first time in california, what a gift, i lost my mind, things got really weird with airto, actually hard to follow cause of the chanting and so on and so forth but it rocked to be there and the sound is crispy
Reviewer:
chinacat72
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July 13, 2004 (edited)
Subject: 4 things ....
Subject: 4 things ....
This has the Bird Song from Without A Net (!)
The Estimated is SICK.
Eyes out of space is a nice changeup.
Airto on Drums!!
The Estimated is SICK.
Eyes out of space is a nice changeup.
Airto on Drums!!
Reviewer:
Augy
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July 9, 2004 (edited)
Subject: I agree about Airto & some folks mentioned the sound!
Subject: I agree about Airto & some folks mentioned the sound!
I saw all but one of Airto's appearances with Grateful Dead, (as well as the first Planet Drum show in Marin and later on the next tour in L.A.) and he
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was always good! Some folks on other copies of these shows complained about the sound, well what do you expect for the Forum! My favorite Forum show will always be the first in '77, which I almost didn't go to because so many bands sounded crappy there; unlike Grateful Dead and perhaps Genesis in '77. This is exactly what I mean, that is this was comparatively good compared to most other bands who've I've seen at the Forum. This place is notoriously bad as I said above!
I really liked the new songs, but then again I always liked the new songs! Well, it is difficult to give this a 4 since Bird Song is cut but on the otherhand since it is the only decent board that is what I give it!
I really liked the new songs, but then again I always liked the new songs! Well, it is difficult to give this a 4 since Bird Song is cut but on the otherhand since it is the only decent board that is what I give it!
Reviewer:
Steinbergerman
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July 8, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Airto rules
Subject: Airto rules
I remember this like it was yesterday. When Flora and Diana started the singing/chanting thing at the beginning of Drums, the top of my head blew completely
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off, and is still stuck up on the ceiling of the Forum somewhere. This version appears to have a cut during their bit, which is criminally unfortunate. Do yourself a favor and at least download an mp3 of the Drums.
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